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Is there something wrong here that doesn't allow the (Button 5 + Right Click) to work as "Right Direction"?
The last 8 seconeds of the video I was holding on the Button-5 while doing clicks on the the right button, It was supposed to turn right (to show the next images) but it didn't. There was a plus (+) sign showing every time I click but the recording app didn't show it.

Also, when I assigned (beside this assignment) the "Button-5 + Left click" to turn left.. both assignments (Butn-5 + Right/Left) turns left.
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I don't know of any reason... What website is that? I need a bit more detail to try and reproduce it here, shame you ignored the posting rules and deleted rather than filled in the posting template, otherwise I may not have had to ask!
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Just tried it here in waterfox (which is based on the firefox codebase) and it seems to be working as expected, in the onedrive photo website - but maybe its site specific (in which case there probably isn't much I can do about it).... Oh I'm also on the latest beta (of course) 2.21 Beta 19 (which I was actually going to release today/tomorrow).

However in Edge it sometimes behaves a little differently and seems to move focus between the buttons along the top of the windows - must be down to the site keyboard navigation - as it does that when pressing keys on the keyboard too...

I did find that {LEFT}{LMB} / {RIGHT}{LMB} would fix it by forcing the photo to be "selected" - but again this is probably site specific, and Im not sure which site your looking at there.

Doesn't seem to be a problem with left/right getting confused either lol
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phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:59 pm What website is that?
Any site. Even on the address bar (i.e editing text). This is IMDb as example.
phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:59 pm shame you ignored the posting rules and deleted rather than filled in the posting template, otherwise I may not have had to ask!
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Sorry, I thought It'll not be important here.
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XMBC Version: 2.20.4
Installed or Portable version: installed
Windows Version: 10
Mouse Information (brand/model): Generic
Did the problem occur after an upgrade of XMBC? (If so, from what version?) / Did the problem occur after a Windows update/upgrade? (If so, from what version?):
Can't tell. I lost all my old data. I haven't used XMBC for 2 months and recently installed the latest version on a fresh windows OS.
How long have you used XMBC?: More than 1 year
What language and keyboard layout do you use in Windows?: English (US) /Arabic (101)
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Odd, it works fine here in the address bar - suppose I better try it with actual firefox...
Out of interest, if you setup simular for notepad, does it work in there?

EDIT: Works for me in firefox too.... Including the address bar... odd
When you press button 5, you should see a grey + sign which indicates the chord is ready but not activated (which it appears you did from your description) and then when pressing the left/right button, that grey + should change to a red + (to indicate the chord is active). If you have a time limit defined (as you do at 750ms) then the grey + will dissapear after that time and then the chord will not run.
It will also dissapear if you move the mouse cursor as you have that turned on too (and then the chord will not run).
That's all configurable in the chord setup screen you showed in the video.
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phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:33 pm if you setup simular for notepad, does it work in there?
No. It behaves the same as firefox.
phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:33 pm When you press button 5, you should see a grey + sign which indicates the chord is ready but not activated (which it appears you did from your description) and then when pressing the left/right button, that grey + should change to a red + (to indicate the chord is active). If you have a time limit defined (as you do at 750ms) then the grey + will dissapear after that time and then the chord will not run.
Yes, all this happens as expected.
phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:33 pm It will also dissapear if you move the mouse cursor as you have that turned on too (and then the chord will not run).
I understand this. I also unchecked the two options (Unblock after / Unblock when mouse moves) but the same result.
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OK well then it must either be an issue in 2.20.4 (that I have fixed since) or something strange causing it outside of XMBC....
I was going to release 2.20.5 today/tomorrow - perhaps wait and try in that version (or you could just install the latest beta 2.21 beta 19 which is effectively what 2.20.5 will be (I know these version numbers are still confusing lol - maybe I should release it as 2.21 but there isn't really enough new stuff to justify that (only bug fixes))
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phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:55 pm2.21 beta 19
Unfortunately, the same thing.
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In which case, I have no further ideas.
Maybe debug logging might help tell us what is going on (at least what XMBC is sending)... that's the only avenue left...
Turn on debug logging, go to firefox (and/or notepad) and run the chord - then send the log - so I can see if XMBC is sending the correct commands...
I don't see how it can work here and not for you - so maybe drop me a copy of the profile too so I can be absolutely sure I have set it up in the same way and there isn't some strange setting combo breaking it!
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Here is the log
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and settings (changed extension to txt)
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OK your profile is working here for me in firefox... Will button 5 + right button moves the cursor right in the address bar. I noticed you disabled the left button in the chord, (so as expected that does nothing)

I cant see much in the log, other than you don't *appear* to have pressed button 5 followed by the right button - only button 5 + left button (which is disabled) ???
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phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:52 pm OK your profile is working here for me in firefox... Will button 5 + right button moves the cursor right in the address bar. I noticed you disabled the left button in the chord, (so as expected that does nothing)

I cant see much in the log, other than you don't *appear* to have pressed button 5 followed by the right button - only button 5 + left button (which is disabled) ???
That's what I told you before. When I assign the left button to move the cursor to left AND the right button to move the cursor to right, BOOOTH (Right or Left Buttons) will move the cursor to the left!
When I disable the left button and keep the right one, the right doesn't work at all (as in the video).

We can conclude that the right button is copying the function of the left button (It behaves the same as the *left behaves).
Maybe this is the reason why you read in the log file that I was clicking on the left button but in fact I was clicking the right one. I didn't expect this would affect the log file too.

Away from the chording, The mouse buttons work normally.. Left is left and right is right.
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We can conclude that the right button is copying the function of the left button (It behaves the same as it).
Well, I certainly can't conclude that at all because it is working perfectly here!

With your profile, the cursor moves right when I hold button 5 and then right click...
With the left button chord also set to {LEFT}, the cursor moves to the left when I hold button 5 and left click, and moves right which pressing the right button while holding button 5...

Is it possible than anything else is sending button clicks - do you have any other macro software?
The log does indicate somethign a bit strange...

24-06-2023 19:28:30.321> MouseHookLLProc: MouseHookData: Msg=0x020b (WM_XBUTTONDOWN), X=175, Y=119, Data=0x00020000, Flags=0x00000000, Time=18650328, Info=0x0, Ptr=0xD30517, Layer=0
24-06-2023 19:28:30.321> Translating XRight Button Down Key state 0x0: Action 128 [Button Chording]
24-06-2023 19:28:30.321> Setting global chord
24-06-2023 19:28:30.321> Set Button Chord Cursor (0)
24-06-2023 19:28:30.321> MouseHookLLProc: Removing message 0x020B (175,119) from mouse hook queue as we have overridden it.
24-06-2023 19:28:30.337> CSPIThread[0x00000EB8]::SPIOverlayCursor Combining overlay cursor(s) 1795493033
24-06-2023 19:28:30.486> MouseHookLLProc: MouseHookData: Msg=0x0201 (WM_LBUTTONDOWN), X=175, Y=119, Data=0x00000000, Flags=0x00000000, Time=18650500, Info=0x0, Ptr=0xD30517, Layer=0
24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> Setting chorded button to Left

24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> Translating Left Button Down Key state 0x0: Action 40 [** No Change (Don't intercept) **]
24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> MouseHookLLProc: Passing original mouse message 0x00000201 through....
24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> MouseHookLLProc: MouseHookData: Msg=0x0204 (WM_RBUTTONDOWN), X=175, Y=119, Data=0x00000000, Flags=0x00000000, Time=18650500, Info=0x0, Ptr=0xD30517, Layer=0
24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> Unable to chord with [Right] while chorded with [Left]

24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> MouseHookLLProc: Removing message 0x0204 (175,119) from mouse hook queue as we have overridden it.
24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> MouseHookLLProc: MouseHookData: Msg=0x020c (WM_XBUTTONUP), X=175, Y=119, Data=0x00020000, Flags=0x00000000, Time=18650500, Info=0x0, Ptr=0xD30517, Layer=0
24-06-2023 19:28:30.491> Chording: Release original chord button

So it looks like while you hold button 5 down, you (or something between your mouse and you) are pressing both left and right buttons down one after each other (without releasing them)... At least, XMBC is receiving both LEFT and RIGHT button down messages
- and they don't appear to be "injected" (i.e. simulated/sent by software) which would mean to me that the physical buttons are being pressed.

I'm not sure what else to suggest/what could be going on. Do you have another mouse you could try it with maybe?
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phil wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:29 pm Do you have another mouse you could try it with maybe?
Currently, no. But your statements will help me find out the cause of the problem. Appearently it's most probably the mouse itself.
Thank you so much for the help.
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