Click-Drag feature...

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kellymic
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Click-Drag feature...

Post by kellymic »

I would like to suggest a Click-Drag feature for XMouse (Click button and it stays pressed until clicked again).

I use a Kensingtom Expert Mouse, which is actually a large trackball with 4-Buttons. I use xp x64 & Vista for work and Kensington says they have discontinued their driver development. Even though on their website the put a Vista certified logo on the product.

The reason I use this track-ball is that I am physically disabled and click-drag is essential for me. I'm stuck using vista & xp x64 via RDP. This really limits my working ability. I email Kensington once a week but no luck, they simply don't care about existing users problems with Vista.

Good news is I found I can install MS IntelloPoint software then XMouse can remap my buttons! I have them all remapped as need minus the Click-Drag. I would be happy to make a decent donation for the ability to do this!

XMouse is perfect ( all most :) ) and really hope this is something you will consider adding.

Thank-you,
Kelly Michels
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Post by phil »

Hi Kelly,

I like the idea, it certainly will have its uses. I will have a look and see if it is possible in the current code base of XMouse (which is now a little in need of repair).

Please don't expect miracles in the next few days as I have just returned from vacation and I rather snowed under right now
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Post by kellymic »

Great, I really hope it is possible! I have a quadcore system just basically sitting there till I can find a solution. I'm not really willing to run XP x32 either!

Just to clarify, a Click drag for Click, R-Click, and Middle click would be preferred.

Thank-you!
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Post by phil »

Let me get this straight before I try and make any changes...

You want the ability to do this for all 3 primary buttons (left right and middle)
A bit like \"sticky keys\" in that the mouse down (click) registers but the mouse up does nothing. the second mouse down does nothing and the second mouse up does a mouse up....

Esentially causing the first click (and release) to just do a \"DOWN\" and the second click and release to to an \"UP\".

And this option to be available for all buttons, but to always send a left click messeage, whatever button it is assigned to?

Does that make sense (and sound right)?

It might be a little tricky to get right! :)
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Post by kellymic »

Yes, ignore first up and ignore 2nd down would. Anyway I can hit my button once and it stays down till pressed again works. Windows has a built in Click-Drag features in Accesability options but its only activated by holding the button down for X amount of time. Not sure if you could use that hook some way.

But anyway that it stays down when clicked then releases when clicked again works. :)

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Post by phil »

OK, I've done this in version 1.33 check it out and let me know if its what you meant.

Edit. Found a bug.. I will fix it now :)

Thanks,
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Post by kellymic »

Awesome! Will wait for bug fix though :)

THANK-YOU!
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Post by phil »

OK, bugs fixed I hope :)

Download v1.33 from my site now and give it a go.
Let me know if it works - it seems to be working here :)

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Post by kellymic »

So far so good!

I am seeing a programming buttons bug and will run it down. It may have just been from trying to do it in RDP though.

I'm a QE for a big software company and will run it down & post a report if needed.

Again thanks! Off to get XP x64 configured now and Vista Ultimate.

On a side note, do you run Visual Studio under Vista, any problems if so?

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Post by phil »

OK, any problems let me know - I have to admit to not spending a huge amount of effort in quality control - its not my strongest skill :)

Generally I use XMouse in RDP quite a bit - at both ends.. I have found that RDP will not pick-up the custom mappings from the local end and apply them to the remote end - I think because RDP client hooks the mouse at a lower level that I can. What I do, is setup the local XMouse application specific for mstsc.exe to do Nothing (don't intercept) for all buttons, then I just setup XMouse on the remote end and let it works its magic there. Generally that works but I havnt tried the new click-drag that way yet.

Eventually I want to be able to have multiple profiles, one that will be enabled only when running on an RDP connections.. I know how to detect running in RDP now hence the \"Swap 4th and 5th buttons\" option, so all that is left is to do the profiles.. but that's a bit big, mainly because of all the GUI changes - and the challenge to keep XMouse small and simple :)

At home I'm using Vista 32bit with Visual Studio 2005 SP1 with no problems. There are some issues with older versions - I use VS2003 quite a lot still at work and had some issues with Vista but then I'm still using XP at work generally.
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